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See from my dog paper today that the KC has called a meeting this week to discuss the ongoing problems caused by puppy farms and to agree a strategy to help combat the issue.
Apparently those invited to attend are the Dogs Trust, RSPCA< Battersea Dogs and Cats Home, Defra, and of course the KC. About time somebody took some action against these puppy farmers.

It is a step in the right direction but we need a change in legislation too to make it work.

Perhaps the kennel club will finally stop giving out pedigrees to anyone who sends out the paperwork :roll:

i agree its about time they stepped in and done something. We have a puppy  farmer near here, the number of times hes been reported to Council etc. Gets fined  for not having a breeding licence then All he does is move on somewhere else into a different council area.  His dogs aren't kennel club registered. :cry:

i know somebody who had a registered dog and bitch, the bitch had puppies and so did her sons dog at the same time, his however were not pedigree but she kc registered them all together and he sold his as pedigree kc registered puppies,  i was very angry but kept gob shut (stupid person i am) there are people out there with dogs that are not what they think they are.

OMG . how can one prove who the parents are. DNA i suppose.

I used to work at The Kennel Club, and I have to say stories like that are not uncommon.  Unfortunately it's virtually impossible to regulate, and it would be too costly to introduce DNA testing to prove parentage.

I know of an instance where a breeder had a KC registered GSD, but he was aggressive, so the breeder used another GSD to breed from who didn't have papers, but was a lovely temperament, and filled in the forms stating that the aggressive dog was the father.  In some ways, better than using the aggressive dog to breed from, but still very dishonest.

This was from a breeder that only bred GSDs.  I dread to think what goes on at the puppy farms.

Sharon

Why is legistlation up to the Kennel Club?  It needs puplic support, charities etc to get together to BAN puppy farms?
Whay do we still have them?  I don't get it.  Somewhere and somehow this has been forgotten.
Stopping DEMAND would help.
How on earth can pet shops be allowed to sell puppies?
Insanity!
Lets do something ourselves to make a change happen.
No puppy farms and no dog sales from pet shops.
Alice

 :shock: Wow that rich coming from the biggest farm breeders on the planet
Who runs the KC "BREEDERS" Why did the kennel club introduce back to back breeding ?? in terms Breed a bitch and after her litter you can breed her again and still apply for kc status.. The very people who run the kennel club are the farmers.... FACT>>>>

Well it wont be KC trying to eliminate them, the only legislation KC would want is when it has a commercial valuse to them, KC has lost massive credibilty with DEFRA over this past 3 or 4 years, GOOD.



It is highly adequatly regulated in every country in Europe except this one, the regulation is regulated by the breed registration club, KC is the UK breed registration club and its working dogs are not recognised at international level because it has no compusory tests.

DNA is only one of several tests which are compusory in many countries in Europe with their working dogs, yes, the tests are expensive and the working tests takes lots of training time, it is also expensive.

There is no incentive to breed working breeds in Europe unless you are totaly commited to the breed and its health and temprament, the breed registration clubs ensure that, if you dont pass all the tests the dog does not get a fit for breeding licence, no fit for breeding licence the pups cannot be registered by the breed registration club.



Yes and I amazed at how easily some naive and vulnerable people are brainwashed into believing otherwise. KC has a glossy magazine cover and some gullible people just promote it and all thats bad in the UK dog world, who suffers, the dogs which these people claim to have some care for.
 Maybe those 'supporters' should consider all the dogs which this morning and every morning were prematurely PTS because of herditory disorders, those which are in pain as I write for the same reasons and all of which areperpetuated by KCs no standards in breeding.

 The KC is merely paying lip service. As long as they accept payment from puppy farmers and register their puppies, they cannot turn around and say they are opposed to puppy farms.

The KC is merely paying lip service. As long as they accept payment from puppy farmers and register their puppies, they cannot turn around and say they are opposed to puppy farms.[/quote]

 Sadly There are  many puppy farmers who dont register their pups with the KC, that enablesthem to  churn pups out ...... breeding bitches season after season.   How many adverts for pups say NOT KC REG.

Registering pups with KC will not stop them, all they need do is register some with KC and other litters from the same dog sell as unregistered.

I believe the laws of slander/libel apply equally to the internet as they do elsewhere and to state that KC members/committee are puppy farmers is to open up the poster and the site to a civil suit.

If you believe that the KC and its associated committees are in breach of animal ethics surely it would be better to challenge them directly and offer them the courtesy you no doubt expect for yourself ie the ability to respond to allegations?