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Title: bleeding puppy
Post by: jack_russel on August 21, 2006, 08:01: AM
my 6 month old jack russel pup has started bleeding. she has not been spayed and we dont intend to have that done if i dont will she get pregnant how muckh longer will she be likely to bleed for and do they bleed everytime they come into season.


Title: bleeding puppy
Post by: dogmad on August 21, 2006, 08:46: AM
Yes, bitches bleed every time they come into season!
Seasons last for approx 3 weeks, but since it is her first time it can be irregular!

She can only get pregnant if you allow her to mate.
Seen her age it would be very irresponsible and definately not advisable!!!!!!!
Please be aware that she will try to find a partner and any entire male dogs will surely try to find her.

Why won`t you consider getting her spayed?


Title: bleeding puppy
Post by: jack_russel on August 21, 2006, 10:09: AM
the reason is that i have a neighbor whos dog died havng the operation however i think i may have to have the operation as blood is everywhere.


Title: bleeding puppy
Post by: Unicorn on August 21, 2006, 04:46: PM
You might wish to buy some nappies, I think you can get buy them so the blood doesn't go everywhere.


Title: bleeding puppy
Post by: lassie on September 14, 2006, 02:10: PM
She will start to clean herself very soon, dont take her out of the garden. When she is  in the garden stay with her. The last thing you want is pups.  You can get her spayed 12 weeks after she has had her season.


Title: bleeding puppy
Post by: Joly on September 14, 2006, 09:14: PM
i wouldnt have her spayed at such a young age anyway - personally id never have it done before 18 months - shes still growing and she needs those hormones and if you are carefull there is no reason for her to get pregnant. However if you cant be 100% commited to making sure she doesnt get pregnant you MUST get he spayed yes the op carries risks - but if she accidently mated with any dog bigger than her then she would be at even more risk of dying when giving birth if the pups are large  - it needs consideration and you must do what is best for her


Title: bleeding puppy
Post by: Colliewobble on December 09, 2006, 06:34: PM
Joly,

We got our bitch spayed before her first season.  Many vets who are up-to-date with current medical knowledge recommend spaying early as it prevents a lot of cancers in bitches.

There is a handful of breeds for whom it is not recommended, but for the vast majority of dogs there is no reason why a bitch shouldn't be given the op before she has her first season.

That's my layman's understanding of the situation, but please feel free to disagree  :D

And besides, the aboive doesn't help jack_russel if their bitch is alreasyt in season  :D


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: sarah160389 on January 28, 2007, 05:26: PM
Colliewobble, Which breeds of bitches should not or are not recommended to be spayed?  Thinking of getting a Bernese Mountain Dog this summer and I just wondered if you knew anything about them?

Sarah


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: Colliewobble on January 28, 2007, 05:46: PM
Hi this is just a rough translation of something that someone has posted on another forum....

Dobermann, Rottweiler, Old English Sheepdog, English Springer Spaniel, Weimaraner, Rough Collie, Irish Setter are recommended to spay after first season as they can suffer from problems with their 'waterworks' if done before....


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: Emmy on January 28, 2007, 06:01: PM
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shes still growing and she needs those hormones and if you are carefull there is no reason for her to get pregnant

Joly is right, I would never get a bitch spayed before her first season, her body hasn't matured properly and only by letting her go through to after her first season, can her body mature the way it that it is natural.   Small dogs usually mature earlier than big dogs.  I have permission from the rescue I got Tilly from to wait until her first season before spaying her, but that is because all my dogs are neutered and I have done this before with another rescue.

Hi this is just a rough translation of something that someone has posted on another forum....

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Dobermann, Rottweiler, Old English Sheepdog, English Springer Spaniel, Weimaraner, Rough Collie, Irish Setter are recommended to spay after first season as they can suffer from problems with their 'waterworks' if done before....

Most of these breeds it is recommended that they wait until they are 2 years old before neutering either male or female.   

It doesn't matter if they are spayed before or after their first season for it to upset their waterworks.  The only bitch I have had that was spayed before her first season by the rescue, is the only one not to have waterworks problems.  It is very easy to stop the leaking if you take your dog to the vet, Gracie is on Proplin for this but she came with waterworks problems.

Speak to your vet about having her spayed, they leave it to about 12 weeks after their season so that her hormones are quite, dogs that are spayed when in season, or close to it, or have an abortion, quite often their hormones stay high for the rest of their lives, I know several like this.


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: lassie on January 28, 2007, 06:49: PM
well i wont spay mine until they are older as i know of a rough that was spayed at 6 mths and was incontinent until she was pts at 14


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: Kerriebaby on January 28, 2007, 07:59: PM
Sheena (Rough Collie) was done at 5ish, and she became incontinent at about 8. So I think age is irrelevant in preventing leakages x


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: merrow on January 28, 2007, 08:30: PM
if u let the dog learn to clean her self she will but if not they do sell doggy nappys which u just pop a panty liner in so she dosnt mess in the house if u dont have a dogs area, i would also spay her after she has finished growing as when u have her spayed it will interfear with her homones and can affect her growing. just keep her in and safe in the garden and play lots so she wont need to go out walking :)


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: seddie on January 28, 2007, 09:20: PM
I had my Sophie spayed before her first season and there were never any problems with incontinence or anything else and she lived to be 17.

However, I would not have a bitch spayed early again unless I had an entire dog in the house or other good reason.

BUT,  it is better to spay early than have unwanted puppies.  So you must be very careful if allowing a bitch to have seasons.


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: jezebel on February 11, 2007, 03:47: PM
My vet advised and said there was no reason not to neuter (sp?) at 6 months.  We really do not want puppies.  Can you advise me in very s-i-m-p-l-e terms why it isn't a good idea to do it so young?


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: travis on February 11, 2007, 05:10: PM
Her homones are still raging at that age she needs these to grow into adult hood,would you give a hysterectomy to a child of 12


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: jezebel on February 11, 2007, 06:32: PM
Her homones are still raging at that age she needs these to grow into adult hood,would you give a hysterectomy to a child of 12

Erm nope!!  So why is the vet recommending this and telling me it makes no difference to wait?  What age would you recommend?

TIA.


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: travis on February 11, 2007, 09:18: PM
He wants your money


Title: Re: bleeding puppy
Post by: seddie on February 12, 2007, 12:12: AM
Its a fine line deciding on this.    I think you need to consider your circumstances and both the pros and cons.  The main thing is that no more puppies are brought into this overpopulated dog world of ours.