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Title: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: jojo71 on February 16, 2007, 10:43: PM
Much to my severe distress, my 7 month old lab pup has been diagnosed with hip dysplasia.  He had an operation a couple of days ago and is now on almost total bed rest to give his hips the best chance of making a good recovery. 

Does anybody have any ideas of how I can keep him occupied in a largely down position?  Obviously, I need to be careful to avoid weight gain, especially as I will not be able to exercise any excess off over the next few months, so pigs' ears, chewies etc. should be kept to a minimum, and he has never really taken to his kong, so that is not an option.  The vet recommended crating him except for toilet breaks and two 10 min lead walks a day, but he is frustrated, bored and distressed.  When out of his crate he just demands to play and tries to run around. 

I'm hoping someone out there has had a similar experience and can offer advice!

Thank you



Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: OwnedByRiley on February 16, 2007, 10:45: PM
never been through this myself, but maybe just sit next to his crate speak to him softly, stoke him peaceful music, of course these are all gueses i'm sure there are pleanty more people on this site that are experienced in this so don't worry you'll find help *hugs*


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: jojo71 on February 16, 2007, 11:10: PM
Thank you for the advice.  Unfortunately he gets even more distressed if he can see me!!  I have taken to putting a big blanket over his crate and since your advice have installed a small radio for him to listen to.  Hopefully it will make him feel comforted.

I'll keep you posted...  :smile:



Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: OwnedByRiley on February 16, 2007, 11:24: PM
okay thank you, let us know how he is doing, if you dont mind me asking how was he diagnosed with this? as Riley can't be screened untill at least 12 months old


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: christina on February 16, 2007, 11:51: PM
Hi Jojo71,

I was really sorry to read your post, and I can feel for you because, although I haven't been in your position yet, my lab has the other problem - elbow dysplasia, and my vet and orthopaedic surgeon strongly advise me to have her operated on. Because I anticipate exactly the problems that you are encountering now, I am putting it off with medication for the time being, but know that the evil day will eventually come.

I can only think of giving him nylabones and the other treated bones that you get from a pet shop, and that a puppy wouldn't chew through. The other thing that I have been thinking of for Lucy, and mean to ask my vet about, is whether, after the operation, I could take her for careful car drives in the crate to give her some stimulus. Although she is a very active dog she is always quiet even on long drives, as she can see through the hatchback, and it relieves her boredom. Also, she is very still and attentive while watching other dogs, and so I was even thinking about taking the crate to the local dog training club so that she could watch and touch noses. Only a thought - and no doubt someone will tell me it's not a very sensible one, but I have been thinking for a long time about the dreaded crate rest.

How long must he be kept in the crate?

Thinking of you  :cry:. 


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: choccielab on February 17, 2007, 05:53: AM
this must be so hard for you  :cry: Dogs do find classical music calming......I found this out as I play it for my baby to soothe him to sleep.....worked on my lab puppy too  ;)
Keep us updated


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: tophat on February 17, 2007, 11:02: AM
Can't really help on how to keep a pup quiet, its so easy for the vets to say "keep them quiet and only gentle exercise" we're talking lively pups!
Ownedbyriley, you can have  puppy xrayed for HD at any age, its just that you cannot have the xray scored by the BVA until after 12 months old. My one Old English was xrayed at 7.5 months old because of limping on the back end, and sure enough he'd got HD, I was lucky enough that resting and restrictive exercise was the course of treatment recommended by my vet, he's now over 9 years old and still doing ok.


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: OwnedByRiley on February 17, 2007, 12:37: PM
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you can have  puppy xrayed for HD at any age, its just that you cannot have the xray scored by the BVA until after 12 months old.
oh right, thank you for letting me know, so if Riley starts showing signs of limpness should i get him xrayed?


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: tophat on February 17, 2007, 01:21: PM
Ownedbyriley not all back end limping is down to HD, it can be a pulled muscle or a strain. I had a suspicion with Monti that it was more than a pulled muscle or a strain, and when the vet checked him over, he was able to feel the looseness of the hips in the sockets and suggested xraying to confirm his feelings that Monti did have HD. When we looked at the xray it was plain that Monti's hips were quite bad, but as he was only 7.5 months old I couldn't have the xray scored. If Riley did develope a limp please don't assume that it is HD because as I've said there's many reasons that a dog can limp on the back end, but always to be safe get them checked by a vet.


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: OwnedByRiley on February 17, 2007, 01:30: PM
tophat, okay iam just so paranoid as he is my first puppy that i own on my own and i recently made a discovery about the so called 'breeders' i purchased him from which is cause for concern, he isn't showing any signs of any discomfort so i'm hoping we'll be lucky


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: tophat on February 17, 2007, 02:15: PM
Ownedbyriley its good that you are aware that there could be problems, it means that you will more  alert to any signs of any trouble. But as I've said there's lots of reasons that dogs can limp. I think we're all paranoid even when its our 12th dog!! I was worried about having Mona xrayed, but was lucky to get a low score 5-3, I was expecting something higher because when she was 8 weeks old she started clicking when she walked. Talk about becoming a nervious wreck took her to the vets and when Edward asked if everything was alright I replied "yes as long as you ignore the clicking when she walks" Edward pulled her back legs out behind her and rotated them, said he couldn't feel anything wrong, he felt that we should wait and see hhow things went. Thankfully she stopped clicking at about 14 weeks, but this did leave me to worry until she was 12 months old to have her xrayed. Had the xray done when she was 12 months and one week old, I couldn't wait any longer! So sometimes we panic and things aren't as bad as we'd worried about. I wish you luck with Riley and am glad that at the moment you've no reason to worry.


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: OwnedByRiley on February 17, 2007, 02:32: PM
thank you for you advice tophat, i'll just keep a keen eye out and try not to get too panicked.


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: jojo71 on February 17, 2007, 02:51: PM
okay thank you, let us know how he is doing, if you dont mind me asking how was he diagnosed with this? as Riley can't be screened untill at least 12 months old
I had him x-rayed last week because he started limping - once it set it, it did not let up and got bad very quickly.  :-(
tophat, okay iam just so paranoid as he is my first puppy that i own on my own and i recently made a discovery about the so called 'breeders' i purchased him from which is cause for concern, he isn't showing any signs of any discomfort so i'm hoping we'll be lucky
I would try not to worry about it unless or until you need to, as Tophat stated, limping could be caused by many things apart from CHD anyway, but if he appears to be in good health then relax and enjoy him.   :grin:
How long must he be kept in the crate?

Unfortunately I have no idea how long he needs to be crated.  He begins hydrotherapy on Monday and the vet is going to advise us as we go along.  I will keep you posted as it will obviously be of interest to you when/ if you go ahead with the operation.  Good luck with keeping it in control with medication in the meantime.

Thank you everybody for being so supportive!


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: travis on February 17, 2007, 03:09: PM
Poor you and your poor pupster,perhaps once he starts his hydrotherapy,he will settle a little better by getting rid of some of his energy.


By the way was your pups parents hip scored


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: christina on February 17, 2007, 05:17: PM
I will keep you posted as it will obviously be of interest to you when/ if you go ahead with the operation.  Good luck with keeping it in control with medication in the meantime.

Many thanks Jojo, I will be very grateful to hear how you get on. I'm so glad you're having hydrotherapy - it's served my dogs very well over the years, and will certainly relieve crate boredom.


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: jojo71 on February 17, 2007, 05:31: PM
By the way was your pups parents hip scored

His parents' hips were good.  Unfortunately these things don't come with solid guarantees - good hip scores reduce the risk, but can't always eliminate it completely.   :-( 

Christina - how did your dogs take to hydrotherapy?  Mine hasn't even swam yet, so I worried he will be really scared.


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: travis on February 17, 2007, 08:02: PM
He's a Lab he will probably love it once he gets used to it,try not to show you are worried or your pupster will pick up on this :smile:


Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: christina on February 18, 2007, 02:08: AM
[Christina - how did your dogs take to hydrotherapy?  Mine hasn't even swam yet, so I worried he will be really scared.

He'll take to it, well, like a lab to water!! Don't worry at all. There will be skilled help to see to your pup, and you will only have to watch and enjoy it with him.

One of my dogs went to a round hydrotherapy pool (after several strokes when her back legs were useless for walking), where she was supported  by one of the staff while she swam round and round. At the end of her life the swimming and food were her only pleasures, so we took her for hydrotherapy every day. Before that, after she had had just one stroke, and seemed to be recovering, we used to go to a bigger pool that was also used for doggy fun sessions, and again the therapist supported her while she swam to retrieve her dummy. Recently hydrotherapy has become much more common than it was then, and at my nearest place there seems to be a whole team of therapists to see to the dogs. He will get every reassurance and a gentle introduction if he needs it, but the chances are he'll just swim without encouragement.

All my labs have been natural and very strong swimmers, and we have film of Vida where you can really see her webbed feet in operation!



Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: jojo71 on February 19, 2007, 06:12: PM
We had our first hydrotherapy session today and it went very well.  He was apprehensive at first and froze and held his breath for the first few seconds, but soon settled into it - he even swam around a little after a toy! 

And the really good news is - he has slept like a baby since we got home!!  Some peace at last....  :grin:

Still a long way to go, but at least he is on the mend and tired!





Title: Re: Bed Bound Puppy
Post by: travis on February 19, 2007, 07:57: PM
So pleased he enjoyed