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1  The DogChat.co.uk Discussion Forum / General Dog Chat / My Sheltie just wants her own poop! on: September 05, 2005, 03:51: PM
My 2 year old sheltie was exactly the same, we tried pineapple and it didn't work.  So we supervised her when out and told her off if she went near poo, picked poo up regularly and when out unsupervised we put a basket muzzle on her.  She isn't half as bad as she used to be, once they stop doing it for a while they tend to forget about it, it's a matter of breaking the habit.  Here are some points from an article I read not long ago by Keith Allison (www.bahnm.org)

Coprophagia - Eating excrement

Autocoprophagia - an animal eating its own faeces
Intraspecific Coprophagia - eating faeces from another animal of the same species
Interspecific Coprophagia - eating faeces from another species

There's no simple explanation as to why dogs to it, there could be many reasons.  Although we find it revolting it doesn't usually do the dogs any harm and can sometimes be beneficial.

There are many theories:

1) Underlying medical problem - pancreatic insufficiency, pancreatitis, intestinal infections, malabsorptive syndromes and over-feeding (especially high fat diets).  Though Coprophagia is probably not the only symptom in one of these cases.

2)  Coprophagic dogs may be lacking in natural micronutrients such as vitamins.

3) They find the chemical appetite enhancers found in some dog foods attractive, despite having been digested by the dog.  

4) If a dog is not fed fresh meat or ’wet’ food the dog may be attracted to another dog that is.

5) The dog is trying to introduce beneficial bacteria into their digestive systems, as most dog foods are almost sterile.

Behaviour theories:

1) Attention seeking - The dog is rewarded with the owner’s attention when it eats poo.

2) Coprophagia is also associated with allelomimetic behaviour  - where the dog observes the owner picking up the faeces and learns to do so as well.  

Cures:

1) Food additives: Pineapple and other citrus fruits, pumpkin seeds, peppermint, papaya and aniseed.

2) Garnish the faeces in something like vinegar or spring onion juice - something the dog doesn’t like.

3) Clean up faeces regularly.

4) Put the dog on a lead and let him sniff the poo and growl ‘No’ at the dog.  When the dog pays no attention to the poo praise the dog.
2  The DogChat.co.uk Discussion Forum / General Dog Chat / Albino Dobermans on: July 30, 2005, 05:36: AM
I own a mostly white blue eyed collie and she doesn't have any problems either, what makes it worse is we have just found out she is a double merle so she is very lucky.

Gina
3  The DogChat.co.uk Discussion Forum / General Dog Chat / Albino Dobermans on: February 13, 2005, 05:58: PM
I have never understood why they call them albinos.  Anything albino has no colouration at all, including eyes, so their eyes are pink.  I think the dobermans just threw out a different colour at some point, as there are fawn and tans anyway which are quite light coloured, they're not all liver or black.   They don't look white either, they do look creamy coloured.  Also think of white german shepherds, they're not recognised either, haven't heard anything about health problems specifically to the whites.  

I know when you breed merle to merle in collies, you come out with mostly white pups, but doing this can cause all sorts of problems including blindness and deafness.  I don't know whether the same is true for above
4  The DogChat.co.uk Discussion Forum / General Dog Chat / Cassie needs you, the rescues need you! :-D on: January 23, 2005, 06:17: PM
Have just found out my little rescue is up as a finalist for the UKs Coolest Canine.  She's come a long way since we had her as a skinny little wreck.

Go to:
http://coolestcanine.com/temp/vote.php to vote.

Or email: kim@k9media.net    with your vote

It would be nice for a rescue dog to win for once, it always seems to be assistance dogs and things and yes they change peoples lives but they normally haven't had a tough life themself  Sad  and a lot of dogs could be trained to do what they do.  A lot of rescues have had such bad starts and it would be nice for one to win, it would promote rescue dogs too.  So go along and vote for Cas!    If not, vote for one of the other rescues. Cool When I think about what Cas was like and what someone has done to her it's awful  Crying or Very sad You look at her now enjoying life to the full, doing agility and loving every minute and want to  Mr. Green

Gina

Then


Now
5  The DogChat.co.uk Discussion Forum / General Dog Chat / How common are blue & white border collies? on: October 26, 2004, 09:46: PM
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A farmer came into the vets where I work last year & seeing my blue merle collie, told me that he'd just drowned a litter of pure blue & white collies.


Maybe that's why you don't see any from working lines Evil or Very Mad That really is awful, blue and white is not that much different to the blacks really so why kill them all, it's daft.  Cas was thrown out as she was mostly white 'and sheep don't respect white dogs' apparently red and whites are thrown out as they 'look too much like foxes.

Posting piccies, mine are all on photobucket:
http://img12.photobucket.com/albums/v36/gina2003/
You need to create an account (free) upload your piccies, it will create the code for you and show it underneath the piccie, it is the third one down entitled 'Img'.  Paste this into a message and hey presto!

Gina
6  The DogChat.co.uk Discussion Forum / General Dog Chat / How common are blue & white border collies? on: October 25, 2004, 04:55: PM
Hiya
A friend of mine has a lovely blue and white, they're aren't that rare.  I see quite a few in agility/obedience/HTM/flyball/breed but haven't ever seen one outside agility/obedience/HTM/flyball/breed.  Never seen one from a working background, they have always been from show backgrounds, that's probably why you don't see many as purely pets.  Where are yours from, rescue?
My friends bl & white
7  The DogChat.co.uk Discussion Forum / Breed Specific / trainablility-JR terriers on: February 05, 2004, 09:20: AM
Hiya
I think your best bet is to look round the rescues and see what's about  Smile
8  The DogChat.co.uk Discussion Forum / Breed Specific / trainablility-JR terriers on: February 04, 2004, 11:38: PM
Hiya
You thinking about agility?  I ask because it says on ure site you want to do it with your collie X.  Well I was looking for a small agility dog.  Thought about terriers, they are great little dogs but are quite difficult to train I have heard from friends who have terriers.  But a terrier cross something may be different.  I know someone with a couple of JRTs the one is really good, but the other runs off a lot.  I sit a border terrier and he is a real handful, really difficult dog.  I think it does depend on the dog.  They are quite strong willed, as were bred to go off and chase rabbits etc, the instinct is still quite strong within them.  Just what I found when I was reseraching the breed.

Gina
9  The DogChat.co.uk Discussion Forum / Breed Specific / New Debate - The Cleverest Breed on: January 25, 2004, 01:16: AM
Hiya
Well border collies are said to be the most intelligent, but Cas is really stupid.  She does as she's told and has really good manners, waits till is asked in etc.  But when it comes to working things out or finding a certain toy she's hopeless.  She doesn't know half the things Diz does, if we say a walkie, she hasn't a clue just thinks it's time to run round a lot, does the same for tea time, or anything that Diz responds too.  Some of the things she does are soo daft I wonder wether she has a brain lolol.  Had her at 6 months

Now Dizzy GSD X rough collie is the most intelligent dog i have ever known and people have said the same to me.  She understands virtually everything you say, picks up on feelings can be taught anything within minutes.  She figures things out really quickly.  She really is one clever cookie!  Knows all her toys by name and we must have about 30, then if there's a new toy and we say a word she doesn't recognise with fetch... she knows it's the new one.  Also with people if there's a new person in the house we could say go and find so and so and she knows that it is this new person.  Sometimes she amazes me, I sometimes wonder if she's human in disguise as a dog.  Had her at 6 months.

Ember surprised me, not ever having been around shelties I didn't know what to expect, but she is too very intelligent, like Dizzy - but not as much.  Much more intelligent than the collie.  She knows so many things already and she is 6 months, I am really surprised.  & was house trained at 10 weeks asking to go out.

I walk a border terrier for a friend and he is worse than the collie, he's food motivated and everything but it takes him soo long to learn things.

Gina
10  The DogChat.co.uk Discussion Forum / Breed Specific / Breed myths? on: January 20, 2004, 09:39: AM
Me too, when I was getting a collie we didn't know much,1 being our 2nd dog and only having had our first for 6 months, so we believed evryone telling us they are easy to train and being the most intelligent must be.  How wrong we were!  I have always said, had I had Cas before Dizzy I wouldn't be doing anything like agility, obedience etc. I probably would have given up!  Dizzy however was the easiest dog to train ever and because I had train her I knew I would get there one day with Cas.  I'd have another though given half a chance!  Smile
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