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Author Topic: have you neutered, spayed or castrate your cainine companion  (Read 1909 times)
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« on: August 12, 2003, 05:04: PM »

have you neutered, spayed or castrate your cainine companion and what are your views? Cool

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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2003, 05:15: PM »

Yes, both of them, enough unwanted dogs in the world without adding to them  
Also health benefits are good too (less cancer risks, no pyometra etc). Smile
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2003, 05:59: PM »

I think that is a good point appart from the much focused on point (and rightfully so) of reducing the numbers of unwanted puppies  the fact that it may have health benifits for your dog has to be a plus.
However *whincing in anticipation of replies* i am a student and i will be getting my pup in november, i have looked into it and i really can't afford to have it done, but i think i'll work a bit in my holidays to get the money togther, now i know people will say you shouldn't get a dog if you can't afford all the finacial commitments that come with it, i totally agree. I can not 'if' or 'but' that. I will say that i want to be a good owner and i belive i can.  I am concentrating on pet insurance, vaccines and food etc.  It's ashame getting your dog spayed etc costs so much. I enquired with NCDL and they said they had a program to help people who couldn't afford it, but i'm not eligible for it.  Embarassed  Crying or Very sad
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2003, 06:37: PM »

There are some low cost neutering clinics out there, we have one near us, in West Yorkshire, called Petvax - and they do neutering and vaccinations a lot cheaper than other places.  Neutering there is £40 (male) and £60 (female).  Puppy vaccines are £20, £15 for the booster.  Our Sky wont go on a bus though - so we had her done at our local vets.
Have you asked around the vets to see if they know of any near you?  Also, some vets will let you pay in instalments - that way you could spread the cost.

Just had a look and the Mayhew apparently do low cost neutering for low income owners.  RSPCA also do low cost neutering apparently.  

Here's some more info I borrowed from Cat Chat....

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LONDON (Lewisham and Canning Town): Celia Hammond Animal Trust: The Trust run two low cost neuter clinics for cats and dogs in the London area, just give them a call as follows, or for more information, send an email: chat@ukonline.co.uk. Current prices are: Cat Castration ~ £15, Cat Spay ~ £20, Dog Castration ~ from £40, Bitch Spay ~ from £45.
Clinic: 233-235 Lewisham Way, Lewisham, London, SE4 1UY ~ Tel: 0208 691 2100
Clinic: 151-153 Barking Road, Canning Town, London, E16 4HQ ~ Tel: 0207 474 8811

LONDON (Camden): The London Beaumont Neutering Clinic: The clinic, in Camden, London is run jointly by Cats Protection and the National Canine Defence League, offering low cost netuering for dogs and cats. Tel: 020 7387 8134

LONDON (Holloway): RSPCA Sir Harold Harmsworth Memorial Hospital, 22 Sonderburg Road, Holloway, London N7 7QD ~ Low cost neutering for those receiving state benefits ~ Tel: 020 7272 6214

LONDON (Putney): RSPCA Putney Hospital, 6 Clarendon Drive, London SW15 1AA ~ Low cost neutering for those receiving state benefits ~ Tel: 020 8789 8252


http://www.catchat.org/neuter.html#lowcost

I know it says it's a cat website, but these clinics say they're for both cats and dogs.

Hope this helps a bit Smile
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2003, 06:43: PM »

Great thats Brilliant!!!!
thanks for that!
Just wondering though how old does your pup have to be to get neutered? Shocked
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2003, 06:51: PM »

Oooh now that's a toughie.  Personally if I had a pup I'd choose to do it before their first season (if female) - so roughly 6 months-ish.  But there are some vets who say a female should have a season first.  Some people (not sure about vets, but breeders) say even longer, to make sure their...girl's bits are matured enough.
With males, the sooner the better for me, roughly 5-6 month mark I think, again, depending on the vet.  That way you shouldn't get that randy teenager dog who likes to jump the fence and beat other lads up  Laughing
It also depends also on whether this is going to be a show pet or not, as some say early neutering can give them a different shape (not as masculine, smaller frame).
But if it is just going to be a pet, go on what the vet suggests - they know what's best Smile
In other words, I don't know!  I'm sure there are many here who will be able to give you more info.  
My two came to me as adults and we had them both neutered as adults.  Sky is somewhere between 4 and 6, and Badger is apparently around the 2-3 mark, although we think he's probably younger.

Edited to add - depending on when you get a bitch speyed, the risks of cancer differ a bit.  Before first season they're lowest, after a season it rises a bit, then after several the risks are a bit higher.  Pyometra is something else worth reading about, it's a nasty womb infection that can kill, the only cure for which would be an emergency spey anyway.  Of course, if a bitch is speyed early, then there is little risk of this (there is a form of pyometra in speyed females in the bit left behind - but this is very very rare).
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2003, 07:05: PM »

thanks again i'm getting male puppy so i was worried about the randy teenager stage. Embarassed I am getting a border terrier  Twisted Evil   i heared that smaller dogs mature faster than bigger ones, i'm hoping not in that department. Shocked
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2003, 09:23: PM »

Both of mine are neutered,Ellie was done 3 months after her first season on the advice of our vets and Rio was done at 7 months BUT I am a little concerned that for Rio may have done more harm than good,some people are suggesting that the introduction of testosterone brings with it more confidence and I will always  wonder if he would have been less nervous if we had let him develop a bit longer before lopping them off.

Still what's done is done I guess I'll never know
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2003, 09:41: PM »

i've heard something like that too, i also heard that dogs are more likely to stay puppy like in behaviour when they are castrated young, this is of course disputed by others i wouldn't know which one is right.
so far it seems everyones done it or thinking about it (that would be me seeing i haven't got a dog yet) no ones said no



<<<<<<this is gonna be my pups dad lets hope he inherits his good looks!
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2003, 09:47: PM »

He looks like a sturdy little chap Mittenz !!
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2003, 10:10: PM »

lol yeah he does, he has a good pedigree i'm lead to belive
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2003, 08:02: AM »

Molly, the Springer was already spayed when I got her a 7 months. Presuming she hadnt had a season, and reading comments on different forums, I find her coat is thick and wavy, and she now had incontinence, sucessfully being treated with Ephadrin.  This may be down to spaying so young. I had the other dogs spayed 3 months after their first season, and the boys at 6/7 months, or depending what age I had them, as soon as they arrived home! The vet said she could neuter Ted as soon as his testicles dropped, which was fortunated, as he was jumping anything, with or without pulse!
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2003, 08:43: AM »

Snatch is neutered since June this year. Although we had him for nearly 3 years and he is an older gentleman, he had loads of other health issues, i.e. anal glands infections etc, when we got him so I wanted to wait for him to be 100%. He hasn't changed a boit.
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2003, 10:09: AM »

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Molly, the Springer was already spayed when I got her a 7 months. Presuming she hadnt had a season, and reading comments on different forums, I find her coat is thick and wavy, and she now had incontinence, sucessfully being treated with Ephadrin. This may be down to spaying so young.


Yes Barb that was the reason my vet gave for waiting until after the first season.
How old was Molly when she became incontinent ?
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2003, 10:14: AM »

Quote from: "Barb"
The vet said she could neuter Ted as soon as his testicles dropped, which was fortunated, as he was jumping anything, with or without pulse!


sorry to be a plum Embarassed  but what excatly do you mean by
"testicles dropped"?
thanks  Embarassed
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