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Author Topic: HELP!!!!!!!!!Humping 6mth old pup  (Read 1375 times)
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« on: February 20, 2006, 12:53: PM »

Whats the best way to stop him doing this. And NO he's not going to be castrated, well not yet
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2006, 12:47: PM »

Two words......water pistol Smile
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2006, 08:32: AM »

Hi

Water pistols can be very effective. so can noise aversion, it has to be set correctly for it to be truly effective here's how.

Noise Aversion Therapy.

Noise Aversion Therapy.

Quite often a simple noise aversion technique can stop many unwanted and irritating behaviours such as jumping up aggression, barking and predatory chasing ie cats or other dogs.  
 
Firstly, you must make your noise aversive device, the best I have found is the small plastic bottles we get water or lemonade in, if they have had something sticky in them wash them out and dry first. Then a third fill them with either small pebbles, coins, dried peas, or anything that really makes a good rattle, screw the top back on, I have found that shingle makes the best sound.  
 
It is better if the owners do not set the bottle, as you do not want the dog associating them with the noise, so the person setting the bottle should follow these instructions. Get some tasty treats cheese, puffed jerky, dried liver or frankfurters, I normally use cheese. Get the dog to sit and put a treat on the floor tight in front of the dog and say "Good"  “Take It” repeat this five times, then on the sixth time do exactly the same but this time don't say the "Good" or "Take It". Pretend to put the treat down (The dog will think a treat is there and when it cannot find it will get a feeling of disappointment) as the dogs looks for the treat shake the bottle slightly. Repeat this number of times, gradually increasing the intensity culminating in throwing it next to the dog.  This should be a gradual build-up.  
 
 Some dogs will stop or jump back in surprise at the first mild rattle this is called a “startle response”. Quickly scoop up the bottle and ignore the dog for several seconds pretending it had nothing to do with you. Do not worry if the dog is not startled at first.  
   
The owners must sympathise with the dog if it shows a response. You may find that after a couple of shakes the dog will not go to the food and may back away. If that happens call the dog to you, sympathise and give a treat, this will confirm the noise is not pleasant, which is what you want to happen. It is important that the dog should come back to you for sympathy and comfort.  
 
Repeat this until the dog will not go to the food even when you put it down. When that happens, pick up the food and give it to the dog, praising it. The idea is not to make the dog refuse to eat off the floor, but to provide a focused sound aversive for the dog during this exercise.  
 
Once the dog has learned that the shaker sound means "STOP" you can use it to stop the unwanted behaviour. You need to try to read your dog's body language and to use the shaker if possible BEFORE the dog gets well into the unwanted behaviour. Such as jumping up, or In the case of aggression, rattle the shaker as soon as your dog begins to stiffen or tense up, for instance just before cat chasing or interdog aggression
 
After a while, you will only need a slight shake to stop the dog in its tracks. Be sure to work on obedience and basic training and commands as well, this gives the dog an alternate behaviour that you can then reward. On the one hand, you are using a correction (the sound) and on the other hand, you are substituting a new behaviour. Some dogs are not noise aversive even using this technique.  
 
If that is the case then alternative measures may be required. You can use training discs made by Mikki in place of the bottle, they are easier to carry but not so effective.


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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2006, 09:53: AM »

Thank you  ver much for the info. Smile   Will put it in to practice
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2006, 08:48: AM »

Hi Lassie

How did it go has it worked?

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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2006, 10:46: AM »

Getting there thanks Stan
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2006, 12:47: AM »

Just out of interest, why isn't he being neutered?  Is he for breeding?
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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2006, 06:11: PM »

No hes not for breeding
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« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2006, 07:15: PM »

Ahhh,
        mutilation unlike docking, whipping a dogs wotsits off is the answer to everything.

Inaproproiate behaviour like this is as a result of poor or none existant training and control.

Quite simply don't allow your dog to do it, show him either by whatever methods lited above or something else that he does not have the right to do it.

Look at a dog pack the top male does not tolerate lesser animals going around humping without their consent.

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2006, 08:54: PM »

Quote from: "Dogtra"
Ahhh,
        mutilation unlike docking, whipping a dogs wotsits off is the answer to everything.


Actually I was asking from a dog welfare kind of stance.  I personally believe all dogs should be neutered, unless there is a medical or behavioural reason not to.  It's not aesthetics I'm thinking of, as would be the case if someone was intending to dock.

But yes, it could help stop humping in many dogs.
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« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2006, 10:27: PM »

I see that next weeks Its Me or the Dog is about a pair of labradors that are always humping each other, so it should give some anti-humping tips (I'm assuming its not a pair of different sex, un-neutered dogs, so the solution isn't the obvious, but I could be wrong!   I'll be watching to see  Very Happy ).
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2006, 08:43: AM »

At 6mths old he is far to young to be castrated.  I for one do not believe that castration is the norm.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2006, 09:12: AM »

I didn't mean for this to be turned into a pro/anti neutering thread.  I just wanted to explain why I asked, as it wasn't a suggestion, just wondering why it was so fervently rejected.

We could go into the pros and cons of neutering all day, everyone has different beliefs.  Mine being neuter as soon as poss as long as there's no health or behavioural reason not to, especially in the case of bitches.

In this case, it could probably help - but it's an owner's choice to make.
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2006, 12:22: PM »

Well after following Stan's tips he is a different dog now. Must have been finding his feet LOL
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2006, 01:55: PM »

Wow lassie, that's great! Very Happy
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