cuddlybabe
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« on: March 28, 2006, 02:26: PM » |
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hi can anyone help please i've got a 2 yr old german shepherd dog, i need a siutable lead nd collar for him or harness if i can get one big enough for him, as he has snapped 3 collars so far i would like to try using a haltie to stop him pulling when hes out, but i'm afraid to use his normal collar incase he snaps it nd runs off
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2006, 04:38: PM » |
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 He must be strong!  Well, I'd definately recommend a halti - at the rescue centre we had a GSD who had a pulling problem and it worked wonders... but I suppose he might snap it... but if he is pulling that much you should definately focus first on teaching him to heel! If you aren't sure how to train him yourself, try a trainer in your area, making sure they only use kind techniques (no choke collars etc!). As for collars, try searching the internet for extra strong collars you can buy online. I already found this one - http://www.caninedesigns.co.uk/lupine.htm for a start, so have a look. Good luck! |
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2006, 05:00: PM » |
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If he's so strong - I'd suggest a headcollar of some description - think of a horse - big strong animal = headcollar lol! If he's pulling so bad a collar will probably damage his neck too - just make sure you choose a good quality headcollar and give him time to get used to it - watch out for it ridin up into his eye to - I see to many dogs wearing headcollars across their eyes and thir owners don't notice Agree with Rachel here - teach him to walk better on a lead too, if he's a foody - keep treats in your hand and give them for being good - if he pulls turn around and walk the other way encouraging him to be by your side, keep turning around once he pulls - he is not suppose to be in control - you are! If you are so worried about snapping head/collars use a harness too and have a coupler lead - one part attached to his headcollar and the other to a harness so if one breaks - you always have somethig else clipped onto him! I use a coupler lead on my BC's harness and collar - so i can control her head/neck but have the harness to pull her back/away from dogs when she lunges  |
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« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2006, 02:15: PM » |
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Hi there, If you're interested in a head collar have you looked at the Cannycollar? It's on a buckle so even if the 'nose bit' comes off you haven't lost your dog. It works really well on my dainty-but-strong BC and they do them in lots of different sizes. If the dog pulls, it pulls the head down rather than to the side so there's less likely to be any 'whiplash'-type injuries of a dog's head jerking. Here's the link..... http://www.cannyco.co.uk/CannyFiles/aboutcannycollar.htmHTH |
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2006, 09:07: AM » |
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I'd recommend if you're going to use a headcollar, to get a connecter to connect it to his normal collar - just in case he slips the headcollar, then you have a back up - otherwise he'd get loose. I know TRPD used to do (and may still do) both headcollars and the connecters, very cheaply http://petcraftproject.proboards24.com/index.cgi |
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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2006, 09:33: AM » |
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I actually designed and developed a new lead and a special aid called a Jingler. It is a simple device that uses sound therapy. and works by distracting your dog momentarily from what it is doing,. The repetition of the jingle and either a change of direction or a command conditions your dog so that it associates the noise with a movement or command. Your dog will soon get the idea that for instance if you are curing (pulling on the lead) then if the walk is to continue the dog quickly works out that the Jingler, plus my technique means it cannot possibly pull on the lead and watch your movements at the same time. You will then be in control of the walk and the reward for good behaviour is for it to continue. The Jingler can be used for a variety of problems “Walking to Heel” “Jumping Up” “Barking” “Nipping & Mouthing” (both puppy and adult dogs), “Food Snatching” and to aid “Recall” and “General Obedience”. I have also used it successfully in cases of interdog aggression, food stealing, jumping on furniture, cat chasing etc, You can see these on my web site which is www.doglistener.co.uk Stan |
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2006, 04:03: PM » |
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I actually designed and developed a new lead and a special aid called a Jingler.
It is a simple device that uses sound therapy. and works by distracting your dog momentarily from what it is doing,. The repetition of the jingle and either a change of direction or a command conditions your dog so that it associates the noise with a movement or command. I have 2 dogs that are noise sensitive and both would panic with something like this, noise will often make a dog noise sensitive depending on the noise and how loud it is. With a noise sensitive dog, to use noise to train them can do a lot of harm. 3 of my 4 dogs were pullers when I got them, none pull now. I use the Trail harness from http://trpdpetcraftproject.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/ click on "Personalised designs" and the top picture is a dog wearing one. These harnesses don't go round the chest but goes down the side of the neck so it is very difficult for a dog to pull. The strap round the body is set further back which seems to lift the body slightly, again making it difficult to pull. Of course you also need to train as well, but you need to do that with any gadget you use. If a dog pulls on a collar they can damage their neck, often it is their trachea. Joe has a damaged neck due to pulling before I got him, he walks nicely on the lead now thanks to the Trail harness. |
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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2006, 04:00: PM » |
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Hi I found some great dog collars on www.pressies4dogs.co.uk and there is on that is built for larger, stronger dogs, here's the description from the site: Alcantara Padded Collar Lrg. Luxury padded collar designed for practical durability with comfort, for medium and large dogs. Strong webbing with a hard wearing, slip resistant, washable Alcantara padding to protect your dog. Available in red, blue and black with matching leads. Size 16-24"/40-60cm. its not too expensive either, which is good because, well hopefully it wont happen again, but if it does snap! but the makers of the above collar are good. have a look for yourself though, there are other great gifts on there too! John |
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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2006, 08:54: PM » |
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I actually designed and developed a new lead and a special aid called a Jingler.
It is a simple device that uses sound therapy. and works by distracting your dog momentarily from what it is doing,. The repetition of the jingle and either a change of direction or a command conditions your dog so that it associates the noise with a movement or command. I have 2 dogs that are noise sensitive and both would panic with something like this, noise will often make a dog noise sensitive depending on the noise and how loud it is. With a noise sensitive dog, to use noise to train them can do a lot of harm. 3 of my 4 dogs were pullers when I got them, none pull now. I use the Trail harness from http://trpdpetcraftproject.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/ click on "Personalised designs" and the top picture is a dog wearing one. These harnesses don't go round the chest but goes down the side of the neck so it is very difficult for a dog to pull. The strap round the body is set further back which seems to lift the body slightly, again making it difficult to pull. Of course you also need to train as well, but you need to do that with any gadget you use. If a dog pulls on a collar they can damage their neck, often it is their trachea. Joe has a damaged neck due to pulling before I got him, he walks nicely on the lead now thanks to the Trail harness. This is twice you have come up with rubbish if you really do not know what you are talking about I suggest you stop giving rubbish advice. I am the Founder member of an organisation called PAACT suggest you look at it? I would never ever use a device that would panic or concern a dog. I am behaviourists behaviourist. I do no harm ie same as the medical edict. The jingler actually calms sensitives dogs. So unless you understand the use of certain calming signals I suggest you are careful with your judgement. By the way most sound sensitive dogs are created by us the handler. Stan |
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2006, 11:35: PM » |
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Perhaps if you explained how the noise from the 'jingler' works to calm down sensitive dogs, Stan, any confusion would be cleared.
I have to say that my own dog is sensitive to noise. She is brain damaged through, we believe, early vaccine reaction and as the noise of even a muffled clicker sends her scurrying for cover, I can't imagine her being calmed by a lead that makes a noise.
Not all noise sensitive dogs are that way because of inadvertent reinforcement by their owner. There are many reasons why dogs can become hyper-sensitive to sound including medical, early association prior to leaving the dam etc.
I happen to know that Emmy's dogs came from rescue situations and were abused in their previous homes so the problem was inherited as it is in so many cases of noise sensitivity.
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2006, 03:45: PM » |
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I have to say I really take offence to someone else's opinion and experience being derided as 'rubbish advice' - there is NO self-appointed expert of the universe when it comes to dogs and their behaviour and self-promotion by decrying someone else's opinion is not welcome here, it's arrogant and non constructive.
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