The dog that barks out of boredom and dog that barks out of fear has the same behaviour but different reasons, no Lou it isn't the same thing.
Where have I said that it is the same thing?
As I have said earlier, I have never seen Yorkie give solutions to problems on the internet apart from recommending that they take their dog to a vet or trainer/behaviourist.
And as I've said, I've seen her do just that and what's more when she made that absurd statement I located and posted several such posts she had made. The post that she finally decided to take part in, about the bird-chasing-dog was full of her advice as to how to treat that problem.
Here are some of her suggestions.
Yorkie wrote:
A good leave is essential. Redirecting and getting hooked onto something else that is more acceptable is a possibility.
Here she admits that she's given advice many times before.
She wrote:
I've posted up times many how I start the 'leave' command and from the basics it's extended out.
Yorkie wrote:
. If the dog, as in this case has a high chase motivation that he satisfies in an unacceptable (to the owner) manner then a strong leave and recall is conditioned.
Yorkie wrote:
Add some fun into the dog's life and build upon the little play instinct that remains.
Yorkie wrote:
Remove all rank reduction procedures and physically aversive corrections placed on the dog by previous trainers and work with the owner and the dog to set rules that both would benefit from
Yorkie wrote:
Emphasise the need for consistency and maintaining consistency throughout the training programme and in daily living.
Yorkie wrote:
Make walks more fun for the dog
Yorkie wrote:
Utilise a long line to extend beach training. When working with a long line, progression should be made to having the line trail behind the dog and over time the line progressively shortened until it is no longer needed. One thing I haven't mentioned is interrupting the behaviour at the very onset and not when the dog has already started the chase.
There are MANY more. These are just from half of the thread about the bird-chasing-dog. So please Yorkie stop telling us that you never give advice and please Emmy stop tell us that you've never seen Yorkie give advice.
Only you are talking about your dog Lou, and as he is no longer with you, it isn't relevant.
I disagree and so I'll continue to ask. I'm sure that there are other dogs out there that bark when their owners aren't home so having Yorkie respond will help those owners.
Earlier I wrote
The dog learned to make another noise. One that replaced his barking and didn't disturb the neighbors. Yorkie imagines all sorts of horrors, of course she refuses to name them or to even provide an alternative to the bark collar. She's nothing but an empty glass, and now she's getting defensive.
Only the neighbours were happy, for the dog to replace the noise with another shows that the reason for him barking hadn't been solved and possibly be more stressed or he wouldn't have replaced the noise.
What is your basis for saying that he was "possible more stressed?" And why do you think that a dog who's barking because he's left alone is stressed at all. Maybe he's bored. Maybe he's territorial. Maybe he's driving off intruders. You haven't asked any questions about this dog yet you assume that he's stressed.
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See how many of them talk about problems that people are having with their Ecollars v. how many are having problems with the so-called positive methods.
I saw quite a few people who were desperate for help on Doggie Door when it was up. These were for the problems that they were having caused by the e collars, and no, I can't say if they used them correctly, all I know is that were having problems but they said they were using them correctly. Doggie Door was against these collars.
And with the attitude of opposing "these collars" I'm sure that the advice was GREAT! LOL.
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Some know a lot and some know nothing. Any of them can read my articles.
They have to know your articles are there before they can read them, when they buy an e collar the instructions to get to your web site isn't amongst them.
That's why I'm on over 75 lists and forums. To get the word out. On quite a few of them there are members who anytime a question about an Ecollar comes up they tell the poster to go to my website and to contact me if they have any questions.
Earlier I wrote
This dog's problems started long before the Ecollar came into the picture. As you say, he paid with his life for her impatience. This has nothing to do with the Ecollar and everything to do with an ignorant pet owner.
This dogs problems started the day she took him home
Yep just as I said.
yes she was impatient but she used the e collar as a quick fix. Just because you say the are safe, doesn't stop people from abusing them.
You said that when she first got the dog she tried so-called positive methods. They didn't work and THEN she turned to the Ecollar. This dog was doomed from the start. That had nothing to do with the Ecollar. It may have been the dog's last chance but no one was there to send her to read my articles. This was a perfect candidate for Robodog.
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I'd disagree. I'd say that there are MANY more Ecollars that give satisfactory results than people who are dissatisfied with them.
Not in this country Lou, you are in the USA were they are used a lot more and people do know them better, but here, people buy them and like the choke chain, don't have a clue how they work.
The country you're in makes no difference. If more people were dissatisfied with them than were satisfied with them, there would be huge numbers of returns and the companies would stop doing business there. There may be more dissatisfied users percentage wise in the US but I have no doubt that still, there are more satisfied than dissatisfied users. But since you've made the statement I'll let you find a source for them and present it here.
Earlier I wrote
You should have read and used my articles. I've saved many dogs by using those techniques. Just about any problem that someone has created with an Ecollar can be fixed by using those techniques.
I would have loved to see you convince this person how to use an e collar as well, now that would have been fun
It sounds as if she didn't need any convincing. She went to the Ecollar when other methods didn't work. All she'd have needed was some guidance.
