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« on: January 26, 2007, 02:43: PM » |
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I aquired my 4th rotty with the hopes of having a few litters, I have the support of 2 very respected breeder and my rott is of excellent quiality and temperment with very low scoring.
But at present with the current media hype there seems to be not a huge but slightly higher about of puppies around, my breeder freind has a litter due in 3 weeks and my bitches brother was put to stud 3 weeks ago. Were montoring the market with these 2 litter to see what demand for pups is and keep checking rotts direct and epupz to she how pups are moving. I still have not decided to which dog i want her putting, I like all my choices.
Allso my bitch is not 2 till may which means my pups will not be docked does not affect me but will it others? i don't no. I'm not in it for the money but i don't want to be left with half a dozen pups that i can't sell, my main reson for having the pups is to keep 1 maybe 2 for my self for show agility resons.
Now should i wait a year or should i take my chances, spent over an hour discussing this last night with my breeder freind, and well to be truthfull my head is spinning think about the what if's and buts.
Just caurious to find out how your thought, feelings and what you would do?
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« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2007, 02:49: PM » |
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I don't have a clue about the market etc. but I definitly think you should wait until you're COMPLETELY sure what to do, and if that's in a years time it's no problem because your bitch is still so young.
also i wouldn't do you any harm to wait until the media hype has died down and maybe even wait to see what happens with the dangerous dogs act. It would be horrible to think that you bred some puppies and then rotties were banned (extreme i know - but the way things are going i dont think it's impossible)
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« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2007, 03:05: PM » |
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Large breeds just dont seem to be selling at the moment, people are having to keep puppies until 12 weeks or older, can you afford to do that? Also with the docking ban coming in a lot of pro dockers (irresponsibly in my opinion) have said they will all try and get a litter in before the ban comes into force so if they do carry out that threat there could be a huge influx of puppies. Personally I'd wait to see what happens and for everything to settle down. As she's still so young you have time on your side. Becky
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« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2007, 03:08: PM » |
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I totally understand what you are saying and know your head must be spinning, i must applaud you for seeking advice and considering this so carefully with things the way they are at the moment.
If it was me i would wait, there is just so many problems at the moment with too many people still breeding, the media hype and all these dogs in the pounds and in rescues, breed rescues there are no vacancies for some of these poor dogs. I hope with all my heart things improve am not holding my breath at the moment.
xx That's all i can say on the matter really, as i do not know the market or much about breeding per se xx
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« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2007, 03:11: PM » |
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Have you read the issues Rottie welfare and rescue are having in the Show Press?  Many puppies, even litters, are being found there as well as adults. What are the overwhelming reasons for breeding from your particular bitch? What qualities does she have that cannot be found elsewhere? What are her hip and elbow scores like? I would not breed from my dog until and unless I had several bookings prior to mating.
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« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2007, 03:24: PM » |
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This is the thing at the moment i think people for those of us who loves dogs and take in dogs and do what we can for them everything is so frutrating at the moment, we know how many dogs are being killed each day we know breed rescues and all these places are full, fosterers have no more time or space it is chaos that's why we i easpecially seem to be getting quite heated in some of my conversations with people in the real world and in my posts as they seem to have no idea what is going on. (Mini Rant and a thread hijack, apologies)
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2007, 03:37: PM » |
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No worries TWS i understand that there are loads of doggys in rescues thats why i'm thinking long and hard about it, and smokeybear has some very valid points. I'm not going to do do this light harted and i'm going to keep intouch with all that have my dogs they will be microchipped pror to selling and all will have to do the good citizen scheme writen into the contract or the dog is returned to me. I am also prepared to take back,lookafter and rehome any dog that is not getting on/or situations changing in it's new home.
I could just cry as the breed i love and adore, live for, my big teddy bears with there own central heating system to keep me warm are being slanted left right and centre and it's not fair.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2007, 03:41: PM » |
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Candi i did not for one moment think you did not understand that's why i commend you for the thoughts and consideration you are putting into this.
I was talking about OTHER people (dont know who they are but i know they exist:))
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« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2007, 03:44: PM » |
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IMO i would not bother. Firstly the bitch is too young to mate so id wait until next year and see how things are then. Also undocked rotties are not evreybodies cup of tea. Why not wait until you have some bookings.
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« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2007, 04:13: PM » |
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No i no you was not having a go at me it's those OTHERS that are causing the problems by just wanting money and having no real intrest in what they are breeding ie teprement, breed standards no kc. I've been planning this such a long time had all the tests and asking questions (some which my breeder freinds have laught at  ) Hi lassie i was under the inpression that kc rules were that a bitch must not be mated before it's second birthday, If and when i do mate her and 1 of the selected few male 4 of the puppies are allready sold but what if she has more, I'm thinking that it be best to wait, been trying to get into agility classes with her but round here there all fully booked and have been for adges (we practise in menage over horse jumps she's very good). Maybe just consentrate on that, but wanted my OH to do it to with me and would rather have a home bred dog.
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« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2007, 04:27: PM » |
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Actually KC rules are a year, I thinmk it is club rules that specify 2 years. Having said that I personally wouldn't mate a bitch under 2 years and I have a small breed. I think it is wise to wait and see what happens and I can fully sympathise with you over the agility. I'm on a waiting list too. Becky
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« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2007, 05:20: PM » |
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No kc rules are no pups can be registerd from a bitch that has whelped before her first birthday.
Most big breeds are usually well over 2 before mating.
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2007, 05:21: PM » |
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Sorry Mahooli i didnt see your post dahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2007, 07:56: PM » |
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I would never mate a bitch till it was over 2, i did put that she would not be 2 till may and that there tails would not be docked meaning that i would not mate till she was over 2. Sorry if i did not word it correctley. 
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« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2007, 10:04: PM » |
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You did nothing wrong I understood that you'd wait til after her second birthday. I just think it would be best to wait until things have settled down and you see the DDA/Tail docking affect. She's young enough that it doesn't matter if you wait another year. Becky
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