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« on: February 09, 2007, 02:00: PM » |
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I would like to know your opinions on spaying young – as everyone seems to conflict! I have a 4 month old dachshund and am wondering when to spay? Some people have said 3 months after 1st season, others say after 18 months old, others say at 6 months old regardless of if she has had a season or not. Any advice gratefully received!
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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2007, 02:07: PM » |
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http://www.caninesports.com/SpayNeuter.htmlThis link might prove of interest. FWIW I spay all my bitches but NOT before 2 years of age. The sex hormones govern more than reproduction and early neutering of either sex can affect physical growth and mental maturity. Unless there are overwhelming environmental reasons to do so I see no advantage in early spaying and many possible disadvantages. We would not conduct a hysterectomy pre puberty in humans would we? Why do so in dogs?
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2007, 02:25: PM » |
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Smokeybear, Why do you leave it until 2 years? Is it because you believe your breed (GSD?) is fully developed mentally and pyhsically at that age? FWIW, I would always wait until after the first season before spaying - I've just had my Rotty bitch neutered at 15 months. I could not wait for her to mature mentally, as it will probably never happen.  |
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2007, 02:33: PM » |
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i would never contemplate having a bitch spayed until after she'd had a season. However i have just had one returned to me that was spayed before she ever had a season so it'll be intersting to compare notes.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2007, 02:49: PM » |
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No my GSD is all male!  I agree with many of the points Christine Zink makes in her article, dogs tend to grow taller if neutered early and not fufil their eventual desired physique. Also in females, there are the risks of post spay incontinence which I believe is higher in those spayed early. |
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2007, 03:33: PM » |
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Hi SmokeyBear, Interesting article. I was surprised to read the sentence that says "A recent report of the American Kennel Club Canine Health Foundation reported significantly more behavioral problems in spayed and neutered bitches and dogs. The most commonly observed behavioral problem in spayed females was fearful behavior and the most common problem in males was aggression." I had previously understood that neutering calmed dogs down and reduced aggression? Is this a myth? I'm curious as I was planning to neuter Harry when he reached 12 months (currently 10mths) as he was an angel before he puberty kicked in - now he runs off after every stray we see (and we have ALOT of strays here). He's not really aggressive although barks alot at strangers so I was also hoping neutering would help with that too! Am I, to excuse the pun, barking up the wrong tree?! Am I back to training again?!! Cheers Michelle |
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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2007, 03:57: PM » |
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http://www.gsdhelpline.com/castration.htmRead this link At the moment your dog is the canine equivalent of "Kevin" overloaded testosterone teenager. It will pass. Castration is no substitute for training.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2007, 07:28: PM » |
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Hey that can't be all true can it? In some shelters they neuter/spay the puppies at a few months of age.
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2007, 08:07: PM » |
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Also in females, there are the risks of post spay incontinence which I believe is higher in those spayed early. This seems to be a common belief, but out of the 4 bitches I have had, 1 was spayed before her first season and she was the only one who didn't have incontinence. I have 2 now that are not in this, Bonnie was spayed 3 months after her first season and Tilly is only 6 months old and won't be spayed until she has had a season. I have heard recently that there may be a connection between HD and early neutering because of the way they have to put the back legs to neuter them. There hasn't been any tests done for this yet, and I don't know if any are planned. I heard it from someone who is dealing with a lot of HD and the majority of them were neutered early. There does seem to be a link between dogs being neutered as teenagers and fear problems. Also with a lot of dogs, the growth plates don't close when they should with early neutering so the dogs grow taller. I noticed a big difference in Bonnie's behaviour after she had her first season, she matured. |
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2007, 08:22: PM » |
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in 30 yrs ive never experienced incontinence in my bitches. They have maybe i 0r 2 litters and then are spayed. It will be intersting to see how the 17mth spayed bitch i have back , turns out. I have her litter sister here and at present they are like two peas in a pod as regards size.
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2007, 10:46: AM » |
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I think if you can make sure that your dog isnt mated with leave it till she is older
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2007, 01:58: PM » |
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i agree CD
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2007, 02:37: PM » |
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I cannot see the scientific evidence for increased risk of HD due to one single occurrence of how the legs are placed for neutering!
If that were true then logically all those dogs who are x rayed for their hip scores would then be more prone to HD?
More likely that early neutering does, as C Spink suggests, interfere with growth etc.
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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2007, 08:03: PM » |
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There hasn't been any tests done for this yet, and I don't know if any are planned. I heard it from someone who is dealing with a lot of HD and the majority of them were neutered early Please read my post again, it says that no tests have been done and as far as I know I don't know if they are planned. I don't really care what you think anyway, I got this from someone who is dealing with a lot of HD dogs, and most are from dogs that were neutered early. I have know this person for quite a few years, and never known her to either lie or mislead. |
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