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« on: February 07, 2007, 09:58: PM » |
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my bitch keeps snapping collars, she does not pull normally but when we go to training classes she gets that excited she jumps and pulls like a nutter. My trainner say's i have to have a half check for doing the good citizen. So i went and purchased a good thickness leather one that lasted 2 sessions then snapped, so i then tryed a nylon one 2 sessions later that snapped so have had to put a chocker on her which i'm not keen on but at least i'm in control. I have seen a very nice leather half check on the internet very thick with good chain but it's 65 quid and she is only 20 months so i really can't justifie spending that much until she has stopped growing and thicking out as these collars are made to measure. It was the leather and stiching on the first that snapped but the nylon it was the chain like the title says any ideas  |
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2007, 10:03: PM » |
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Rogz for Dogz do a very good quality collar and one end goes through the D ring where the lead attaches first before doing up so the strain is not on the catch when the dog pulls.
Why do you have to have a half check to do good citizens? ??:
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2007, 10:08: PM » |
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Thats what the trainner said we have to have unsure i'm not a dog trainner just taking her word for it now if it was a horse i'd no what to do, can anyone tell me why they have to have this sort of collar? is that dogz for rogz on the internet sarabe  |
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2007, 10:24: PM » |
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Im not sure you have to have a half check for your good citizens ?? I never had to for mine! ??: Maybe your trainer thought you might have better control with one! I had a half check made from chain which wasnt that expensive £15 or so, dont think she'd snap that..Wel shouldnt do  |
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2007, 10:33: PM » |
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If you google rogz for dogz you'll find them. I tried to post a link but it was too long and nearly broke the forum. They are the armed response collar.
You don't have to have a half check to take the good citizen test. You can use whichever collar you want on your dog.
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2007, 10:47: PM » |
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ok great thanks for that will check that site out very worrieing that these have snapped terriffies me to think i could of been at the side of a busy road.
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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2007, 12:31: AM » |
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Candi, I like your wee chestnut!!! sorry can't help on the snapping collars, but echo what mad max says...you don't need a half check for your bronze ... I have the Kennels clubs GCDS leaflet, and there is nothing in there that suggest this test can only be taken in a half check.
perhaps instead of a collar you could use a halti, (and keep a cheapo one on her for having her ID tag on) for training purposes until she's calmed down enough for you to warrant buying her a nice collar?
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2007, 07:16: AM » |
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Perhaps it would help to teach her some attention exercises or a "LOOK" command rather than just keep trying to hang on  Attention exercises are really usseful for this sort of behaviour and you can practice all week at home before next class . Start in a low distraction environment like your back garden and then take her to many different places and practise, practise ,practise. Your trainer should be able to show a couple of these type of exercises...if not pm me and I will send you some stuff. |
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2007, 07:35: AM » |
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If you are worried about snapping a collar, you could use a collar and a harness/headcollar. That way you remain in control!
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2007, 10:10: AM » |
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If you have a strong dog then you must not rely on a cheap collar.
There are lots of sites which do strong leather collars Accolade, John Humphris, Dragon etc. JH specialises in security dog equipment therefore the leather will be strong enough for your Rottie!
Alternatively go to a saddler and have one made up for you, they generally do them for well under £20 and you can choose stainless steel or brass fittings etc.
I am a KC approved GC examiner and I can verify that you do NOT need any sort of special collar.
The guidelines say a collar suitable for the dog.
I do not allow dogs to take their test in head halters or choke chains.
There is no reason that most dogs cannot wear an ordinary flat collar.
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2007, 10:35: AM » |
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Agree with Smokeybear. I purchased a plain leather kennel collar from John Humphris and it is amazingly tough - it's not a thing of beauty and is rather stiff, but it will not be breaking or stretching (a problem I have had with some leather collars).
They also do half-check collars, if you really want.
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2007, 01:11: PM » |
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have got in touch with the people that make armed responce collars, the leather collars was not cheap 30 quid with brass fittings stiched and studded and about an inch thick and on exsamination there were no weak point in the leather. Hi rubyt i don't just hang on to her we do food distractions and turning but she lurches through total exsitment and then snapp, she has never been nasty to other dogs just want's to play. , but if you have anymore suggestions please PM me and i will let you no how i get on with it. after 5 mins she carms and is excellent with everything i'm asking of her. Will a nylon choker that does not pull tight be ok for GC have left a message for my trainner to see if it will be ok |
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2007, 01:14: PM » |
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Not sure what you mean by a nylon choker that does not pull tight.
do you mean a nylon choke collar rather than a metal one.
A slip lead
A half check
etc?
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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2007, 01:19: PM » |
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it's one that rogz for dogz sell and it's like a normal collar then a ring some more nylon then another ring if you go on there site it's the picture next to were it says everest on large breeds
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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2007, 01:23: PM » |
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This design is similar to a half check IF fitted correctly, if not it will act like a choke.
The only caveat I would have about the armed response collar is the fastening, personally I would never rely on quick releases, especially with your history.
I prefer the security of a proper buckle. But if it works for you I am sure it is fine.
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