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Author Topic: New Debate - The Cleverest Breed  (Read 8486 times)
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« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2003, 08:47: PM »

Fully agree with you Ayla, but still language capabilities seem to be the most popular way of assessing intelligence.

Many injustices have arisen throughout history arising from studies of human intelligence and intelligence testing. It would be a travesty if the same happened within the animal kingdom.
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2003, 09:17: PM »

The cleverest dog is the one that lives wild,well away from human interferance.
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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2003, 01:35: PM »

Mine are very clever, they have me trained just the way they want me??
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« Reply #33 on: November 10, 2003, 10:01: PM »

I'd say my beardie is too clever for her own good Shocked  She has a need to understand everything happening around her - and she seems to understand a whole lot Laughing Problem is that if there is something weird happening and I can't show her what it is all about she gets easily stressed out Sad  

She is phenomenal when learning new things, she really seems to think for herself!
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« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2003, 09:46: AM »

My sam is to clever to be intelligent, means he has to use his brain Rolling Eyes  
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« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2003, 02:35: PM »

All mine are clever in there own ways mainly how to manipulate me into getting what they want -Those puppy eyes!! Lucy is problem solving she must have escaped about 50 times in the last few months im still not sure exactly how she does it! Jake can get anything even if you put it out of his reach. You put something as far back on the kitchen side as possible (he isnt that tall) then you turn around for one second and he's got it! And then theres bonnie she's 10 weeks old and can consume 3 times her body weight Shocked and produce more mess than the other two and my whole family! Laughing
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« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2003, 06:55: PM »

I have to say its the border collie I have 4 of them, next its the Little jack russell I have one of them
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« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2004, 05:32: AM »

American Bulldogs are very intelligent, almost to the point of being human, never underestemate the intelligence of an AB, or you WILL BE outsmarted Laughing
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« Reply #38 on: January 18, 2004, 11:14: PM »

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    Well said Whizgirl!!!  I agree with you 100%! All of my American Bulldogs are clever! The American Bulldog is a very clever, hard working, brave and loyal dog! I wouldnt have any other breed of dog! As far as i am concerned - nothing compairs.

    Whizgirl - i know that we share the exact same opinions! I know you love the AB's like i do!
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« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2004, 01:29: AM »

I know this is a late entry, but I have some insight.

None of mine are particularly brilliant. We call them our Unthink Tank. Embarassed
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« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2004, 02:39: AM »

I just been reading this thread.
Well my friend has a border collie pure breed. She took him to training classes as a pup and hes currently doing agility.

Although hes very well trained and does exactly as hes told, he cant think for himself very well. He has to be told what to do.
Is there a difference between trained well and intelligence?
I trained my Tessa myself. Shes 10 months old now and knows all the usual, sit, lie down, roll over onto her back, shake paw etc.
She learns very very quickly. She was fully house trained by about 2 weeks after I got her. She only sits, lies down etc when she wants to. She knows serveral words, and almost knows go left and right (handy when on walkies  Laughing  )

I think some of it is also down to how the dog's been treated. Most of the rescue, badly treated dogs I have come across don't know that much stuff, is that because of the breed or because they weren't taught anything as youngsters.
Can an old dog be taught new tricks?

Its certainly interesting to think about
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« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2004, 07:56: AM »

A lot depends on how the dog has been trained as to how much it thinks for itself.

Rescue and older dogs can easily be trained. What you often do find is that those who acquire older dogs don't train them anything other than the basics. Let's face it, a lot of people get dogs to be companians and aren't interested in training on for sport or obedience. It's not that the dogs aren't capable of doing more, just that both the owner and the dog are content at not doing.
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« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2004, 10:05: PM »

ROTTWEILERS ARE BY FAR THE CLEVEREST BREED
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« Reply #43 on: January 25, 2004, 01:16: AM »

Hiya
Well border collies are said to be the most intelligent, but Cas is really stupid.  She does as she's told and has really good manners, waits till is asked in etc.  But when it comes to working things out or finding a certain toy she's hopeless.  She doesn't know half the things Diz does, if we say a walkie, she hasn't a clue just thinks it's time to run round a lot, does the same for tea time, or anything that Diz responds too.  Some of the things she does are soo daft I wonder wether she has a brain lolol.  Had her at 6 months

Now Dizzy GSD X rough collie is the most intelligent dog i have ever known and people have said the same to me.  She understands virtually everything you say, picks up on feelings can be taught anything within minutes.  She figures things out really quickly.  She really is one clever cookie!  Knows all her toys by name and we must have about 30, then if there's a new toy and we say a word she doesn't recognise with fetch... she knows it's the new one.  Also with people if there's a new person in the house we could say go and find so and so and she knows that it is this new person.  Sometimes she amazes me, I sometimes wonder if she's human in disguise as a dog.  Had her at 6 months.

Ember surprised me, not ever having been around shelties I didn't know what to expect, but she is too very intelligent, like Dizzy - but not as much.  Much more intelligent than the collie.  She knows so many things already and she is 6 months, I am really surprised.  & was house trained at 10 weeks asking to go out.

I walk a border terrier for a friend and he is worse than the collie, he's food motivated and everything but it takes him soo long to learn things.

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« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2004, 09:22: PM »

When i got my basset hound dylan (saddly not with us now died with health probs), i did the right thing by taking him to puppy classes. I tried several the first one i walked into the trainer just laughed at my dylan and said you wont get much out of him they are not intelligent and have minds of there own.
 Well i left that class and started another, the trainer was fantastic she just said you may have difficulty as they are stubborn breed and they are i have to say, but i have to say what i managed to achieve out of dylan was fantastic he did the basics sit, paw , roll over , stay and leave it, oh and the famous touch it and he would touch anything if i asked him to and run back for his reward. I would honestly say that each breed of dog was bred to do different things and each dog has a good level of intelligance. I mean a basset hound was breed for hunting and they are intelligent in that field.  Every dog has intelligence i think

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