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Thundadog
19-07-2007, 04:08 PM
Amber is 5 months old now and I've noticed today how long her legs look all of a sudden.

I don't know an awful lot about Parson Jack's and we always thought that she would stay quite small.

Is there alot of difference between a Parson and a Jack??

She'll never be KC registered as she doesn't meet the teeth requirments, she has an underbite.

She measures 12 inches at the withers already and hasn't stopped growing.

I'd imaginge there is so much variation within the breeds that its hard to tell.

Any ideas guys??

smokeybear
19-07-2007, 04:56 PM
An underbite will not prevent the dog being KC registered, this is not a siqn of quality, merely of the dog's pedigree.

There are all sorts of variations in the JR as they are not KC registered there is no standard.

Lara'sYorkies
19-07-2007, 05:09 PM
Jack Russells can't be registered as the KC does not recognise them yet. As SB said, there are alsorts of different types of JR around, its nothing to worry about :)

Francis
19-07-2007, 05:36 PM
Don't know if these are any help?

http://jackrussellgb.co.uk/club_info/breed_standard.htm

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/82

JRTs can be long or short legged (and various heights in between). The standard for Parsons is a bit more exacting. Legend has it that size of parents isn't always a good indicator!

I think / hope Grimble is going to be medium height. I love short legs, but that would be totally impractical - she'd be permanently covered in cow doo-dah. At four months old she stands at about 8" high to the shoulder and her body seems to be just catching up with her leg length a bit before her next spurt starts.

Thundadog
19-07-2007, 06:42 PM
An underbite will not prevent the dog being KC registered, this is not a siqn of quality, merely of the dog's pedigree.

There are all sorts of variations in the JR as they are not KC registered there is no standard.


I know they aren't KC registered because JR aren't a "recognised" breed. I was asking how I could tell if she was a JR or a Parson?


Don't know if these are any help?

http://jackrussellgb.co.uk/club_info/breed_standard.htm

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/82

JRTs can be long or short legged (and various heights in between). The standard for Parsons is a bit more exacting. Legend has it that size of parents isn't always a good indicator!

I think / hope Grimble is going to be medium height. I love short legs, but that would be totally impractical - she'd be permanently covered in cow doo-dah. At four months old she stands at about 8" high to the shoulder and her body seems to be just catching up with her leg length a bit before her next spurt starts.


Her parents weren't very big as it happens, they were not shorties but they didn't have the long legs of a Parson. Dad was a long hair, Mum a smooth coat.

*PrincePatch*
19-07-2007, 06:46 PM
these are pics of patch, he is a patterdale cross parson.

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w129/natrac/Picture21.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w129/natrac/Picture1.jpg

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w129/natrac/DSC00008.jpg

smokeybear
19-07-2007, 06:51 PM
She'll never be KC registered as she doesn't meet the teeth requirments, she has an underbite.

So sorry, I was responding to what you wrote, I must have misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that the reason your dog would not be KC registered was because she did not have a scissor bite.


I did not understand that you KNEW your dog was a JR rather than a PRT from your post it appeared to me that you were wondering whether or not she was a PRT because of her legs.

I do apologise

Thundadog
19-07-2007, 07:58 PM
Thats what I am wondering!! ::)

Am I talking in a different language?? :o

Smokeybear, you know, I find it really hard to tell from the way you write wheather you are having a joke or not!

I'm not overly bothered about her being KC registered anyway. I'm sorry if I worded my question wrong.

I'll make myself clear then, I would like to know if there was a way that I can tell if Amber who is 5 months old is a Parson or a JR??

When I first got her, I didn't know that there were different breeds of Russells. I do think she is a JR, but her legs are showing Parson length.

PrincePatch - cute pup!!

claraclogs
19-07-2007, 11:03 PM
most jack russles are mongrels ( please dont anyone think i am being offensive ;D - but from what i have seen any smallish black and white, tan and white or tricolour terrier type dog is classed as a Jack russell terrier)
i have friends with jack russels that range from almost chihuahua looking, to staffie cross types to collie cross types. long hair, smooth hair or wire haired. long legged, short legged. long bodied, short bodied. barrel chested and narrow.
all gorgeous dogs. ;D

Francis
19-07-2007, 11:10 PM
Grimble has made friends (well, fight buddies) with a JRT x bitch at puppy school. She is supposedly crossed with a Westie, but looks more like a chihuahua (sp?) - one single colour (brown), black nails, chi eyes etc. As for Grimble, she looks almost as if she has Yorkie in her at times. Other times I look and think hmm, daxie (but I think that's just cos she's a bit uneven at the mo!). Don't care- whatever - we love her for what she is!

Thundadog
19-07-2007, 11:18 PM
Me too! Amber is a cute bundle of energy and I love her to bits!

I know there is so much variation, and I understand what you mean by "mongrel" lol.

Wouldn't be without her, ever! Smitten?? Oh Yes!! ;D

loveisokay
19-07-2007, 11:23 PM
Do you mean registered or recognised?

I was under the impression no dog could be KC registered unless the parents were & the breeder filed it.

smokeybear
20-07-2007, 08:59 AM
There are two registers, the breed register and the acitivities register.

To be on the breed register both parents of the dog must be kc registered either in this country or another one.

To be on the activities register all that is necessary is that it is a dog of any parentage, mongrel or not. This has to happen if you wish to participate in any kc licensed activity.