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greecemonkey
27-07-2007, 08:45 PM
Hello Dogchatters,
I have been living 6 months in Spain and 6 months in the UK for the last 3 years. The first couple of days this time, my Spanish friend had a dog he did not really want. He had taken the dog because when it was born the mum had died, and the owner was having trouble with all the puppies.
Yiannis
lassie
27-07-2007, 08:52 PM
As its a banned dog NO!
k9media
27-07-2007, 09:30 PM
Sorry greecemonkey. No way round it I'm afraid as the breed is not permitted in Britain even under licence.
No chance, its a banned breed, sorry!
Rune
greecemonkey
27-07-2007, 09:33 PM
on the paperwork
Looks possible from an image search on google.
Unfortunately the crosses of the banned breeds are also banned.
Rune
k9media
27-07-2007, 09:43 PM
Yes, that is indeed a Dogo Argentino.
Beautiful dog by the way :)
lassie
27-07-2007, 09:43 PM
http://www.thebreedsofdogs.com/DOGO_ARGENTINO.htm
greecemonkey
27-07-2007, 10:01 PM
Thanks for you help,
Graham
k9media
27-07-2007, 10:06 PM
I agree with you 100%
They should judge the individual dog - or more importantly the dog's owner - not just have a blanket ban on breeds.
This is Britain though, we seem to be becoming more anti-dog each year.
briarlow
27-07-2007, 11:42 PM
Unfortunately just the odd incident has caused problems for this and many other breeds. I have seen them in Europe and found them all to be friendly, but unfortunately because of some idiots the breed gets tied with the same brush.
Snowmantra
28-07-2007, 06:49 AM
Gorgeous dog :) Sadly the breed is banned. Like everyone else says it is rubbish that one breed gets tarred with the same brush due to a few numpties!
lassie
28-07-2007, 12:22 PM
I agree with you 100%
They should judge the individual dog - or more importantly the dog's owner - not just have a blanket ban on breeds.
Couldn't agree more.
This is Britain though, we seem to be becoming more anti-dog each year.
briarlow
28-07-2007, 11:23 PM
I love the word numpty, never heard of it until I became friends with someone from CHesterfield and she's always saying it, it always makes me ;D
sarabe
28-07-2007, 11:25 PM
We use it all the time in our office. :-X ;D
ah lucky you i have always wanted a dogo but they are definitely banned here, and there would be no hopes that it can come and live in England which is really harsh
Nice looking dog.
What is even more mad is that the UK police/kennel club etc. have no records of any Dogo Argentino or Fila Brasileiro ever being seen in this country, but governement banned them anyway.... Lord Baker = very stupid man!
Sassy Lassy
03-08-2007, 10:45 AM
But WHY is it banned? The whole breed banned because of what?
Pitbulls are banned due to them being bred to fight and kill.
So what is it about the dogo?
i think they are all supposedly used for fighting somewhere in the world i dont really know.
lolly
03-08-2007, 12:31 PM
Stunning dog, such a shame :(
But WHY is it banned? The whole breed banned because of what?
Pitbulls are banned due to them being bred to fight and kill.
So what is it about the dogo?
The breeds listed (Pit Bull, Dogo Argentino, Fila Brasileiro and Tosa) all have some dog-fighting history (but were not necessarily bred specifically for it).
What dog-fighting or dog aggressive dogs have to do with being dangerous (to humans) only Lord Baker knows...
To be fair, I don't believe any dog wardens or the police would recognise a DA or FB anyway!
i agree IJF, when i wrote my letter to the MP regarding BSL i asked for supporting information and why specific dogs were banned and why would you ban the dogo over the presa and stuff like that i never got a response only a factsheet sent to me on bullshit legislation that says exactly that **** about any of it, so am guessing they have no idea, clearly the house of commons needs a better minute taker LOL.
To be fair, I don't believe any dog wardens or the police would recognise a DA or FB anyway!
When I took my dog to Oz I had to get a certificate from the vet stating that she was not one of the above breeds. The vet openly admitted that she had never seen one of these breeds and wasn't sure she would recognise one if she did. I got the certificate on the basis that my dog was obviously a GSD.
greecemonkey
02-01-2008, 04:32 PM
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greecemonkey
02-01-2008, 04:36 PM
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smokeybear
02-01-2008, 04:40 PM
Immediately before the DDA came into force, owners of the dogs concerned could claim exemption from its banning provisions. This required entry of their dogs’ details onto a central index (the Index of Exempted Dogs) and the issue of certificates of exemption.
Exemptions were only granted if stringent conditions were met. Exempted dogs have
to be neutered, tattooed, and microchipped, and have to be on a lead and muzzled
when in a public place. Owners have to maintain insurance against their dogs injuring third parties.
You cannot get onto it if you have a NEW dog.
Bullbreedcentral
02-01-2008, 06:15 PM
You cannot get onto it if you have a NEW dog.
Yes you can, you just take the risk of seizure and possible pts if the court rules against you. You cant apply yourself thats the problem, not that you cant get your dog added if you have one.
smokeybear
02-01-2008, 06:17 PM
Well obviously it DOES happen because people continue to breed illegally from pit bulls; if they did not then there would be no need for the exemption clause anymore as they would have all died out long before now.
However bit of a risk if you want to import a DOGO........
Bullbreedcentral
02-01-2008, 06:28 PM
Tottaly and not a risk i suggest anyone takes. It isnt people breeding pit bulls that results in there still being so many here, its the law being stupidly written to included any crossbreed that may look like a pit bull thats helped keep numbers so high.
MikeO
04-01-2008, 05:51 PM
It wouldn't get through customs.....
(Unless it was imported illegally, via the white cliffs of Dover. Which would just be silly)
greecemonkey
15-01-2008, 02:31 PM
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greecemonkey
15-01-2008, 02:31 PM
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kazschow
15-01-2008, 03:01 PM
It wouldn't get through customs.....
(Unless it was imported illegally, via the white cliffs of Dover. Which would just be silly)
Getting it through customs itself wouldn't be a problem the dog folks have never once been at the tunnel any time I've taken my dog through... you pay your £30/ dog fee and no-one there to check!!!
greecemonkey
15-01-2008, 03:09 PM
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kazschow
15-01-2008, 03:16 PM
Nope both my dogs have been throught the petpassport scheme, all dogs entering the uk need to be part of this. I most certainly would not recomend you bring an illegal dog into the uk, the chances of you getting through would be slim, and if you did the first person to recognise what he was would report you, he would be seized and the consequences for him yould be pretty negative I would think.
To be honest Greecemonkey, I think you have to accept the fact you will not get this particular breed repatriated into this country, I'm sure you've made sure he's in a good home, leave him there to settle into his new life, and you should try to do the same. It's difficult I know, But the best for both of you in the long run. He's healthy happy and safe where he is, that's not necessarily what would be in front of him if you tried to move him.
smokeybear
15-01-2008, 03:24 PM
Without wishing to sound holier than thou I have to say that I strongly object to anyone considering bringing into this country a dog that is on the banned list.
Whether you agree with this legislation or not the fact remains that this is against the law, we have enough problems with the incompetent owners and their legal dogs without importing more trouble.
If you cannot live without this breed of dog I suggest you go and live somewhere where this legislation is not extant or do what a lot of us do in the real world, make a compromise.
kazschow
15-01-2008, 03:26 PM
Without wishing to sound holier than thou I have to say that I strongly object to anyone considering bringing into this country a dog that is on the banned list.
Whether you agree with this legislation or not the fact remains that this is against the law, we have enough problems with the incompetent owners and their legal dogs without importing more trouble.
If you cannot live without this breed of dog I suggest you go and live somewhere where this legislation is not extant or do what a lot of us do in the real world, make a compromise.
Couldn't agree more SB
Bullbreedcentral
15-01-2008, 04:24 PM
The strongest arguement for not bringing in such a dog is the effect it will have on that dog if you are caught and the effect on the owner if you are not. Its hell on earth for many owners of dogs that could fall foul of the DDA and even when registered, still hell on earth. They only go through it to keep the dog alive. Given the choice many owners would rather their dogs never existed in the first place. Harsh but true.